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 It's our meetup on Zoom.

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 My name is Michael Huggins coming to you live from

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 I got my co-host today out of Chicago.

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 - Chicago, man.

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 And it's, I'm sacrificing today, Michael,

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 because it is 68 degrees out and I'm in here with you.

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 It's unbelievable.

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 - What's outside?

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 - Weather, fantastic, fantastic, beautiful weather

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 and a motorcycle.

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 - And a motorcycle.

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 Well, folks, today we are bringing you another story

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 of transformation from a student inside of our community

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 who has used our system, used the process

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 that we have been implementing for over 15 years now.

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 And he's had a total transformation.

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 But before we get into that,

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 I need to remind you that real estate is risky.

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 and make sure that what you're doing is above board,

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 you could lose a boatload of money.

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 it could totally transform your life and your kids' lives

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 and everyone behind you.

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 So get it right and surround yourself with people like us

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 - I have a question.

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 - Go for it.

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 - Does anybody else see him sound like a chipmunk

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 Like he just speeds up to catch up.

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 - Did he?

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 It happens every Zoom up, dude.

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 Like you slow down a little bit,

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 - And you sound, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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 - Live TV, baby.

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 - Live TV, baby.

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 Gotta live.

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 Now listen, one other thing everybody should do.

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 I don't know if you said this.

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 I was so enamored with the speed of your speech.

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 - Perrin Wetzel!

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 better.

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 I want to learn more.

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 And there are some people who show up and they're like,

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 I'm already good at my thing.

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 I just want to get something from what you guys are

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 offering.

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 But you came in with this serving mentality.

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 And so, so why is that?

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 How is that different?

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 How is that supporting you and your business?

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 - Okay.

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 One of the things is that I found out.

283
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 - Is it on your phone?

284
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 Is that your real phone now?

285
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 - No, this is the office phone.

286
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 Yeah.

287
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 - Pretty soon the pay phone is going to ring.

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 - Silence.

289
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 - Your mom.

290
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 - How did I turn this thing off?

291
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 - Set you up with.

292
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 You don't know how to turn that off.

293
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 - Okay.

294
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 Let me see.

295
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 After we got to turn this phone.

296
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 - Just answer it and then give them the URL so they can

297
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 join us.

298
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 - No, no.

299
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 My office staff answered the phone.

300
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 I don't answer the phone.

301
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 - Okay.

302
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 - All right.

303
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 So, all right.

304
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 So my question.

305
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 - All right.

306
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 Here comes Michael's question again.

307
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 - The service mentality of a business owner versus the

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 taking mentality.

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 A lot of people show up wanting to take and take and take

310
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 because they see the abundance here.

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 But you showed up willing to give.

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 And so what changed in your mindset in order for you to be

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 able to do that?

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 - Well, one of the things I saw that people were giving in

315
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 most organizations you have is always,

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 you know, they want to hold things back.

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 But in this organization, they wanted people wanting to

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 give information freely.

319
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 And that was the biggest difference in this organization

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 than most organizations where that they have a scary

321
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 mentality.

322
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 All right.

323
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 Everybody's trying to keep everything from themselves and

324
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 think there's not enough for everybody else.

325
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 And this organization is totally different.

326
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 People want to give and help you.

327
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 All right.

328
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 And that's one of the biggest difference between this

329
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 organization and any other organization I've been involved

330
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 in.

331
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 The giving aspect.

332
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 People helping each other.

333
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 And they're freely do that as opposed to, oh, I'm only

334
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 going to give you X, Y, Z, but I'm going to hold all the

335
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 good stuff myself.

336
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 All right.

337
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 So, you know, we're like Vincent Scott.

338
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 If he knows anything, he's going to give it to you.

339
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 All right.

340
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 And he's not going to hold back.

341
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 He's not going to say, I'm not going to give you this

342
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 because I think you're going to be better than me or

343
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 something else.

344
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 Hey, he wants you to be successful.

345
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 And that's the whole objective.

346
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 They want people to be successful in this education.

347
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 And I think that's one of the reasons why the study group

348
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 started because the fact that people were buying education

349
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 and we're sitting on it.

350
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 We wanted people to do something with the education, be

351
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 successful with the education.

352
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 And that's human nature.

353
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 I have all these things I bought, used them one time,

354
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 sitting in the closet somewhere.

355
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 How many times have you done that?

356
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 You know, you bought something and you never used the book

357
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 the first time.

358
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 And that's what happened with this education until we

359
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 started doing a study group that people started being

360
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 accountable for each other.

361
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 And that helped out.

362
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 You got a lot of results now.

363
00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,010
 So tell us a little bit about your real estate now and how

364
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 you involved in this organization to help you with your

365
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 real estate.

366
00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,440
 What's happened since?

367
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,440
 Okay.

368
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 One of the greatest things I found out about real estate in

369
00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,440
 this organization is that you can use other people's

370
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 retirement.

371
00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,310
 And that's something that I've, in every real estate

372
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 transaction that I've done, I've used somebody's retirement

373
00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:30,980
 money in order to do my real estate transaction as opposed

374
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 to going through the bank.

375
00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,440
 And I've done.

376
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 You can be a CPA to do that?

377
00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,440
 No, you could be anybody.

378
00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,400
 You know, at one time I was in a study group and this was a

379
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, I think it was a buy and hold study group.

380
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 And the facilitator at the time, he asked anybody who was

381
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 doing a deal.

382
00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,440
 Do they have a deal to present?

383
00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,440
 So I get up in front of the room and I presented my deal.

384
00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,440
 I was, you know, looking to buy a six unit building.

385
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 And after I did, gave my presentation, three people in the

386
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 study group wanted to invest in this, this six unit

387
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 building.

388
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 And at the end of the day, two people invested in it and I

389
00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,020
 was able to get this six unit building, but no money down

390
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 none of my own credit or none of my own money.

391
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,760
 And I also was able to get a rehab without having to spend

392
00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,440
 any of my own money or my own credit.

393
00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,020
 So, you know, that's something that we learned in the class

394
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, how to present your proposal because money followed a good

395
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 deal.

396
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,440
 Yeah, very good point.

397
00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,440
 So do you still have that property?

398
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,440
 Did you sell it?

399
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,440
 What to do with it?

400
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,440
 Well, what happened to the property is that we have it.

401
00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,440
 Somebody set the property on fire.

402
00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,960
 And I learned through, through an out of education is that

403
00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,760
 I only paid $50,000 for a six unit building that was

404
00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,440
 completely occupied.

405
00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,180
 So my insurance person told me that, you know, you put $350

406
00:12:52,180 --> 00:12:55,440
,000 worth of insurance on it and shit covered.

407
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 But in reality, I needed $450,000 worth of insurance on it.

408
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,760
 So when it caught on fire, the insurance company, they ding

409
00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,440
ed me because I didn't have enough insurance on the property

410
00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:08,440
.

411
00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,440
 All right.

412
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,440
 So the damage was more than insurance was the cover.

413
00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,440
 So I had to tear the building down.

414
00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,440
 It cost me $85,000 to tear the building down.

415
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,440
 I only paid $60,000 for the property.

416
00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,440
 And I, well, they would be-

417
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,440
 Here's what I'm glad about.

418
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,440
 I'm glad you can laugh about it.

419
00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,440
 It's awesome.

420
00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,440
 Yeah.

421
00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,440
 So, so, the, I paid my investors off.

422
00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,440
 I had the building torn down.

423
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,610
 I still put about $50,000 or $60,000 in my pocket at the

424
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 end of the day.

425
00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,440
 Okay.

426
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,440
 Okay.

427
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,440
 But I would rather have had the building than $60,000.

428
00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,440
 Everyone got paid back.

429
00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,440
 And you-

430
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,440
 Right.

431
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,440
 Everybody got paid back.

432
00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,440
 Yeah.

433
00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,440
 And I made $60,000.

434
00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,440
 Wow.

435
00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,440
 I didn't see that coming.

436
00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,440
 Hey, hang on a minute.

437
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,440
 Hang on a minute.

438
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,440
 Bring, bring.

439
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,440
 I think the city of Chicago is calling me for a pay.

440
00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,440
 Okay.

441
00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,440
 So, I got a question.

442
00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,440
 Okay.

443
00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,440
 I got a question.

444
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,440
 Okay.

445
00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,440
 So, tell us about that first deal.

446
00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,990
 And let me ask you, had you ever done real estate before

447
00:14:14,990 --> 00:14:16,440
 you walked into the building?

448
00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,440
 Had you ever done it before?

449
00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,440
 Not really.

450
00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,440
 Inside your own house?

451
00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,440
 No, no.

452
00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,440
 Okay.

453
00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,770
 So, tell us about your experience on that first real estate

454
00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:26,440
 deal.

455
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,260
 Loretta kind of told us about it, but I want to hear from

456
00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:30,440
 your perspective.

457
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,440
 Okay.

458
00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,440
 All right.

459
00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,060
 So, when we first joined, we were, you know, hot to do a

460
00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:37,440
 real estate deal.

461
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,440
 So, we went with Justin Kane.

462
00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,440
 We went with, what's the guy's name?

463
00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,440
 Andy, what's his name?

464
00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,440
 Andy, or one of Justin-

465
00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,440
 Who cares?

466
00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,440
 But go ahead.

467
00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,440
 Okay.

468
00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,440
 Okay.

469
00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,440
 Anyway, we went, we analyzed about five or six deals.

470
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,840
 And then there's this one deal that was in a foreign

471
00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,440
 country called California.

472
00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,440
 California.

473
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,440
 Oh, your first deal.

474
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,440
 That's right.

475
00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,440
 Your first deal was in California.

476
00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,440
 Loretta did not.

477
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,440
 Loretta didn't talk about that.

478
00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,440
 Good.

479
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,440
 I'm glad you told us.

480
00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,440
 Okay.

481
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,440
 It was in California.

482
00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,170
 And Hugh, who used to come in and do the wealth summit, we

483
00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:15,440
 would tell him about the deal

484
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,440
 every time he come in every month.

485
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,440
 And he said, you should do the deal.

486
00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,440
 You should do the deal.

487
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,440
 We were afraid.

488
00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,440
 We were afraid.

489
00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,920
 So, the last time he came in, he said, if you don't do the

490
00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,440
 deal, I'm going to take this

491
00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,440
 deal away from him.

492
00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,000
 And if the deal was with one of her relatives who had

493
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440
 inherited the department of

494
00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,330
 property from a mother, she lived in Chicago and we lived

495
00:15:32,330 --> 00:15:35,440
 in Chicago and probably was in California.

496
00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,440
 We were just brand new.

497
00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,440
 We were doing analysis.

498
00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,440
 So we said, okay, we'll go with the deal.

499
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,780
 So we drew up the paperwork and they started asking us

500
00:15:43,780 --> 00:15:45,440
 about a deed and trust.

501
00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,440
 Okay.

502
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,530
 We hadn't gotten that far in the education yet because we

503
00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:49,440
 didn't know what a deed and trust

504
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,440
 is.

505
00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,440
 A deed and trust is like a mortgage in Illinois.

506
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,440
 So, you know, so we found out what a deed and trust was.

507
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,440
 She didn't know what a deed and trust was.

508
00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,440
 So we made arrangements.

509
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,440
 We, the property was about to be foreclosed on.

510
00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,500
 And that was during the financial crisis when people said

511
00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:07,440
 you couldn't make money in California.

512
00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,440
 And we did.

513
00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,440
 And one of the things is that the paperwork was wrong.

514
00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,470
 So we had a choice to try to do a loan modification to

515
00:16:13,470 --> 00:16:15,440
 catch up on the, on the, on the property.

516
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,890
 Because we didn't know the law, we decided to catch up on

517
00:16:17,890 --> 00:16:19,440
 the property, the mortgage.

518
00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,440
 So it was no problem.

519
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,440
 The property need to have some rehab done on it.

520
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,160
 Somebody in the community loaned us money in order to do a

521
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,440
 rehab on the property.

522
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440
 We rehabbed it.

523
00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,460
 And after everything was said and done, we made $80,000

524
00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:33,440
 profit on, on the property.

525
00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,440
 My first deal because she made us do it as a, we can see.

526
00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,440
 I'm going to take it.

527
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,440
 If you don't ask for, that's the motivation right there.

528
00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,440
 Right.

529
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,950
 And then the class of way in Arizona, we went out to

530
00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:44,440
 Arizona.

531
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,880
 We saw the property for the first time and everybody in

532
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,440
 community helped us because we wouldn't

533
00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440
 have been able to do it without the community.

534
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,490
 Cause somebody told us a real estate agent we should use, a

535
00:16:53,490 --> 00:16:54,440
 construction company we should

536
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,440
 use out in California.

537
00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,440
 And you know, as well as you helping us out.

538
00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,440
 So everybody helped them.

539
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,210
 We also use Mark Kohler firm in order to make sure the

540
00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:04,440
 title and everything was correct.

541
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,440
 And it turned out to be a great deal.

542
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,440
 How much did you make?

543
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,440
 $80,000 profit.

544
00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,440
 Woo wee.

545
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,440
 First deal.

546
00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,440
 In California when nobody said you could make money, you

547
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:13,440
 know,

548
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,440
 California doing night with the 2010.

549
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,440
 Yeah.

550
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:18,440
 Nice.

551
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,440
 So what was that like?

552
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,440
 What was that feeling?

553
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,440
 What was the emotion?

554
00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,440
 Yeah.

555
00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,520
 How do you feel when you got, when you saw that check, we

556
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,440
 heard, we heard Loretta's take

557
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,440
 on it.

558
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,440
 Okay.

559
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,460
 So it was, you know, it was a great feeling that, that we

560
00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:32,440
 was able to do a deal and close

561
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,440
 on it.

562
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,500
 And everybody turned out to be happy because the fact that

563
00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:37,440
 her cousin, you know, she was asking

564
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,440
 her relatives, you know, help give her money in order to,

565
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,440
 you know, keep the property.

566
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,440
 And we were able to help her out.

567
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,110
 She made the money off the deal and we made money off the

568
00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:45,440
 deal.

569
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,610
 So we gave, you know, we agreed to sell it to her with the

570
00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:50,440
 mortgage plus, you know, giving

571
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,440
 us the money.

572
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,180
 So when, when, when all the way around, we never want to

573
00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:56,440
 call a subject to deal because

574
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,440
 we actually closed on the property before we sold it.

575
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,440
 So the subject to actually does work.

576
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,440
 That was our first deal.

577
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,440
 Subject to strategy.

578
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,440
 Yeah.

579
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,440
 And you've never heard about that before coming here.

580
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,440
 Oh, no, I never would never heard of somebody too.

581
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,440
 That's my conversation with everybody.

582
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,440
 Hey, would you, we were on the subject to this?

583
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,440
 And they're like, huh?

584
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,440
 And then I get to just, they don't even know what it is.

585
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,440
 It's a life changing strategy, folks.

586
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,440
 Life changing, baby.

587
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,440
 They don't teach you that in college.

588
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,940
 They, they, everybody on the line that's listening to this

589
00:18:24,940 --> 00:18:27,440
 recording deserves to learn subject

590
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,440
 to.

591
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,440
 Yes.

592
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,440
 Yeah.

593
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,440
 That was a great strategy.

594
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,440
 Yeah.

595
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,440
 Great.

596
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,440
 Well, it's not.

597
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,440
 Go ahead.

598
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,440
 Sorry, Michael.

599
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,440
 Tell us where you're at now.

600
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,440
 What's your latest project?

601
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,440
 What are you looking forward to?

602
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,440
 What's what gets you up out of bed?

603
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,440
 What are you excited about?

604
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,440
 Okay.

605
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,770
 Right now I'm looking at it at a, at a, at a condo where

606
00:18:47,770 --> 00:18:49,440
 individual he lives in areas.

607
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,750
 Now he lives in the, uh, Vegas and the association took

608
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:56,440
 over the property because

609
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,270
 of the fact that he hadn't paid the association dues and

610
00:18:59,270 --> 00:19:00,440
 they rented it out.

611
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,440
 And they're right now the tenant is paying.

612
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,440
 It's a, it's a section eight tenant.

613
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,440
 They're paying $1,400 a month in rent.

614
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,440
 And he only wants $125,000 for the property.

615
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,440
 That's a good deal.

616
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,750
 So I'm in negotiations now to see if I was firing that

617
00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:17,440
 property.

618
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,440
 You add into the portfolio.

619
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,440
 Right.

620
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,470
 And the thing about it is, you know, people would notice

621
00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:23,440
 you were involved in real estate

622
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,440
 and people bring you deals every day.

623
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,440
 So you have to determine which deals are the best deal for

624
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,440
 you.

625
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,440
 Nice.

626
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,440
 You know, cause all the time people, you know, do you want

627
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,440
 to do a deal?

628
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,440
 Do you want to do a deal?

629
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,750
 And I had to, you know, scrutinize them to find out which

630
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:36,440
 one is the best for me.

631
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,440
 Another great reason to be part of a network, right?

632
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,440
 The ecosystem.

633
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,670
 What would you say is the biggest difference between going

634
00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:45,440
 to college, getting those degrees,

635
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,380
 getting those certificates, and then coming here and taking

636
00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:49,440
 this type of education?

637
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,440
 What's the biggest difference?

638
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:57,590
 Well, first of all, it's been 40-something years since I

639
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:59,440
 was in college.

640
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,440
 I had to remember what I did in college.

641
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440
 But the biggest difference, though.

642
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,440
 You had to remember if college existed.

643
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,990
 But the biggest difference is that this education trains

644
00:20:12,990 --> 00:20:14,440
 you to make money.

645
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,440
 Well, college did not train you to make money.

646
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,030
 It just trains you to be a person who wants you to have a

647
00:20:19,030 --> 00:20:19,440
 job.

648
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,440
 You know, they train you to how to be working the system.

649
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,940
 Well, this is something that, you know, you don't work in a

650
00:20:24,940 --> 00:20:25,440
 system.

651
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,440
 You can do it.

652
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,580
 You know, my thing is that, you know, I never had a job in

653
00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:33,440
 my entire life since I've been grown.

654
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,180
 Because I want to do whatever I wanted to do, when I wanted

655
00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:37,440
 to do it,

656
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,970
 with whoever I wanted to do it with, and a resource to do

657
00:20:39,970 --> 00:20:40,440
 that.

658
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,440
 So, and this helped me amplify that goal.

659
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,440
 Excellent.

660
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,440
 All right.

661
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,440
 Perfect match.

662
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,440
 Hey, can I, can I answer that question real quick?

663
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,440
 Since we're asked it.

664
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,440
 So I look, I think the difference is I went to college too.

665
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,830
 And I, you know, graduated after five years of ramen

666
00:20:59,830 --> 00:21:00,440
 noodles.

667
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,440
 Right?

668
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,440
 Like looking for that job.

669
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,660
 When in this education here, I got to take a class and I

670
00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:06,440
 got to use it.

671
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,440
 Right?

672
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,440
 So I was literally in the midst of the short sale classes.

673
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,440
 And I'm like, hey, let me go get a Liz Pendens list.

674
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,440
 And because they just taught me how to do that.

675
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,440
 Right?

676
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,440
 And I did it.

677
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:14,440
 Right?

678
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,440
 And then, you know, you go ring a doorbell on the door

679
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,440
 right after you take the class.

680
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,440
 Right?

681
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,920
 So, you know, you're actually, you're using the stuff as a,

682
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,440
 right.

683
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,440
 If you're taking it, you're not having to wait five years.

684
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,440
 So something can be activated.

685
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,290
 Yeah, that's, that's what we're about here folks is going

686
00:21:28,290 --> 00:21:30,440
 to inspire you to get off your

687
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,870
 couch, face your fears, chase your dreams and make it a

688
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:33,440
 reality.

689
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,680
 And it sounds like Perrin is making that, that the case for

690
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,440
 himself.

691
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,670
 And then for a lot of people too, because he's, he's such

692
00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:41,440
 an influence.

693
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,710
 So that's what we're looking for here folks is to inspire

694
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:45,440
 you to make a change.

695
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,440
 Link arms with us.

696
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,440
 Is there anything else you want to add to this Scott?

697
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,760
 No, no, I actually want to add that, uh, it's been a good

698
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,440
 time here.

699
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,440
 Yeah.

700
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,460
 Thank you so much Perrin for being here, taking some time,

701
00:21:56,460 --> 00:21:57,440
 tax time.

702
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,440
 So I get it.

703
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,440
 You're busy phones ringing off the hook.

704
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,440
 I'll bring up the hook.

705
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,440
 Awesome.

706
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,440
 We'll stick around.

707
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,280
 We got two bonus questions for the folks that are here live

708
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:05,440
.

709
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,440
 So please stick around.

710
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,890
 And, uh, for everyone else here who's, uh, watching this,

711
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:10,440
 or you are catching the recording,

712
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,860
 it's now your opportunity to get back with the person that

713
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,440
 got you here and come to the intro,

714
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,460
 come to the house tour, come to a workshop, open your mind,

715
00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:19,440
 come and see what's possible for you.

716
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,440
 And, uh, and we'll, we'll cheer you on.

717
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,440
 We'll give you all the resources we can.

718
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,230
 And, uh, we'll, we'll, there is a path that's laid out for

719
00:22:25,230 --> 00:22:25,440
 you.

720
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,440
 You just got to show up.

721
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,700
 So with that being said, I want to, uh, congratulate Perrin

722
00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:32,980
 for all the success he's experienced and thank you for his

723
00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:35,440
 time and his energy and his, his willingness to serve.

724
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440
 And, um, and we're going to wrap this one up folks.

725
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,440
 We've got almost a hundred episodes in the past.

726
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,020
 So go check those out, share them with your friends and we

727
00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:43,440
 will see you on the next one.

728
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,440
 All right.

729
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,440
 Two bonus questions.

730
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,440
 Scott and Michael invited me on your show.

731
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,440
 I really appreciate it.

732
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,440
 Thank you.

733
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,440
 Thanks for coming.

734
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,440
 All right.

735
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,440
 Thanks for being late.

736
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,340
 Thanks for being late.
